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  • msp1976
    02-13 04:04 PM
    This is why I mean USCIS/DOS was lazy. If there is total visas for the year (hypothetical 160,000). then only 40,000 are available by quarter. If there is 50,000 applications in the que then there is retrogression. Remember if there is more demand then what can be approved by quarter then retrogression.

    So what this means is that if there is 400,000 approved I-140's but only 300,000 greencards then 7% limit would apply because there are more people in the que then what can be approved by quarter. Therefore, ROW people would still be able to file throughout the year and then whatever is left in the fourth quarter that ROW hasn't used then it would spillover. Therefore, it would still give ROW people to continue filing and taking the visas while the 7% countires have to sit and wait for breadcrumbs until the fourth quarter.

    In the first three quarter the 'heavy' countries(India/China) would get numbers until the 7% caps hits and in the fourth quarter they would get the big chunck...

    If the law contains a 'continous recapture' provision( anything not used this year get recaptured again immediately for next year...) then it would not be long befor e all categories become current....By the way 'continous recapture' is one of the IV goals...

    Pl. Correct me if I am wrong....

    Now I have really started to appreciate the IV goals listed on the front page.....
    IV core team have gone through all this junk long before we got started and the goals take care of every point raised until now....





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  • copsmart
    09-24 02:19 PM
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  • eastindia
    07-21 02:30 PM
    If a person is making lot of money through this e-commerce business why is he shopping in cheap Walmart? Why do they drive cheap cars? Beats me.





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  • neocor
    01-09 01:33 PM
    I just got to this site via from immigration portal.
    I have been reading a lot in the other forum and here about the ways to cure retrogression. Lobbying for more Visa's and other things that were part of the S.1932 bill are fine, however these things are not going to solve the retrogression problem even if such a bill gets passed.

    No one seems to be talking about the real problem that is Labor Substitution. Abolishing Labor Substitution will itself take care of every retrogression problem.

    The INS does not have the right tools to police the misue of this rule. This is resutling in a lot of problems for even those employees whose Labor's get substituted even if they are still working in the same company.

    Any effort to reform immigration should start with first reforming the Labor Substitution rule (if not completely abolish).
    I know that all the companies/employers and the lawyers community are against removing the Labor substitution, therefore it will never be removed, but atleast it should be reformed so that it can be better policed so that no one is able to misuse it and play with peoples lives. And in turn add to retregression.

    Following reforms are needed in Labor Substitution.

    - First thing in the Labor Substitution reform is related to the Priority date. The Priority Date for a substituted Labor should the date when the Labor is substituted (or the I-140 filing date). It should not be be the date when the Labor was originally filed. This in itself will solve 90% of the problems related to retrogression.

    - When a Labor is substituted it should be verified immediately to find if there is any I-140 or I-485 that is pending based on this Labor. If so then the Labor should be rejected immediately. Currently this is not done at the time the Labor is substituted, therefore the resulting 485 filing just amounts to add up into the backlog of Visa Number requirement, until the priority date becomes current for this 485.

    - If an employee invokes the AC21 then that Labor should not be allowed to be substituted.

    - There should be a limit to the time until which a Labor can be substituted. This could be debatable and could have other consequences, as the INS could invalidate any GC application that is been pending for more than the this duration.

    In short the Labour substitution rule is in a mess and is getting miused a lot. People are getting fooled by the employers, and ultimately its making the retrogression more worse.

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  • nozerd
    03-19 05:25 PM
    I am currently trying to negotiate with my company to do one of 3 things

    1) Live in Windsor, ON and commute daily to work in Detroit, MI office. Work on my current US based projects

    2) Work out of Toronto office of my company on US based projects.

    3) Take transfer to Canadian operations of our firm and work there as Canadian employee on Canadian payroll.

    In all 3 cases intent is to move back to US once PD is current so I can file 485. At the same time earn time towards Canadian Citizenship and build roots there if US GC isnt going to happen. Advantage of option 1 and 2 is to get paid in US salary, keep H1 visa for travel to US and keep US based job ready.

    Others can also try similarly if their firms already have offices/branches/ sister concerns in Canada.

    If job market is bad then go there wih a job set up. I am lucky my company is multinational with offices all over.





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  • venetian
    07-29 04:46 PM
    I agree with some earlier posts that CP numbers might be low from retrogressed countries, many of my friends and acquaintances from India had dropped the plan for CP route because unlike 485, they cannot file for EAD for their spouses.

    With so much uncertainty in EB GC processing, it is understandable that many would have filed filed 485 to get its benefits like EAD etc. So bottom-line is numbers for CP processing will be considerably low when compared with AOS.



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  • rajuram
    02-14 11:51 PM
    How would letting "people" know that there is a problem help? The only people that matter are politicians.


    I tried to determine, on a separate thread, the wait times for EB-2 India, EB-3 ROW, and EB-3 India.
    ANd I failed miserably. My models didn't make much sense. So I quit trying to come up with a reasonable, mathematical, estimate on the wait times.
    The reason I was trying to determine wait times, was so that I could then convince people to join and contribute for IV. Basically, a media campaign, geared towards our base.

    Anyway, the point of this post is this. I don't need reasonable, mathematical estimates. Maybe, all I need is a quote. A quote from someone knowledgeable, like Aman. Or some lawyers association. Some chimpanzee from USCIS. I don't know. Just something that says 'It will take 10-15 years for EB-3 India to get their greencards.' Or something like that for EB-3 ROW/EB-2 India.

    That could be used to let people know that there IS a problem. Trust me. A huge majority doesn't even know that there is a problem.





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  • kaisersose
    07-29 12:21 AM
    I presume the decrease in labour filing in 2008 might be a possibility due to the offshore Indian companies which shifting to H1B sponsorship instead of L1 sponsorship. Because most of the L1s being rejected with these companies recently. So they switching to H1 sponsorship. And obviously they normally dont sponsor GC. So this is just my thinking on why the labor filings decreased in 2008 compared to 2007.

    http://www.myvisajobs.com/reports/Sponsor/Top500_h1b_visa_sponsor_2005.pdf

    There is the added restriction that the employer has to now pay for PERM. SOme employers may have some way of working around this, but it definitely has an impact in reducing the number of applications.



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  • chanduv23
    02-14 02:22 PM
    Please be advised, that IV will not endorse this. If people are gathering here and in places like , please form your own mailing group and proceed.

    Those who are on this thread, if you have not yet sent the letter to President for the Admin fix campaign, please send it, and help IV make the grassroots campaign successful.





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  • Rb_newsletter
    01-13 06:16 PM
    GC is for future employment....this memo is only for H1B. Otherwise you can sue them.

    haha I wonder if they understand that rule. If they did, then why are they asking for pay stubs for past 2 years?



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  • GKBest
    02-14 01:07 AM
    can you also please care to do the percentage with total applicants ?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lazycis View Post
    How about facts? In 2006, Philippines received 23,733 EB visas, India - 17,169. No other country received more. China received 9,484.

    http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/s...6/table10d.xls


    LAZYCIS......don't forget the fact that in 2006 there was still Schedule A...that's why Philippines and India was given more visa #s.





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  • Rohan99
    07-30 04:07 PM
    can you share the phone number and address of that Away family?:) May be for a change lot of people from this thread may want to meet this Away person. :rolleyes:


    Met this dude once in a grocery store, he and his hot wife gave me the amway speil. I said listen buddy give me a time to visit your house and number. I called him and we played phone tag, one day I called and his wife picked up, i ASKED IF i could come, she was hesitant and said he was out of state for a conference but I convinced her that it's ok. When I arrived I brought a bottle of wine and then she was all over me in 5 mins. Sigh what a wonderful time....



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  • sam_i02
    07-24 04:35 PM
    Its not the question of economy alone. When deciding to go back. Its a question about convenience.

    a) I don't want to stand in line to pay my Electric/Telephone/House Tax/Income Tax/Train Ticket/Air Ticket/Bus Ticket/Children Admission-donations/Petrol Line/LP Gas Line/Restaurant Line/Chola Bhatura Line/Samosa Line/RTO Office line/Registration line/License Line/Stock Buy line/Stock Sell Line/Bank Deposit Line/Bank Draft Line/Fixed Deposit Line/Kisaan Vikas Patra Line/Registered/Speed post Line/Blue Dart Line/Company registration line/College admission line/College fee line/University degree line/Interview Line/Booking a Car line/Beer Whisky Line/Canteen Line.

    Half the country stands in line, the other half manages the line. Neither has any civic sense.

    b) I don't want to bribe babus who manage above lines to get ahead in line.

    d) I don't want power failures/cooler failures/ac failures/broken roads/or other catastrophic system failures.

    e) I dont want fake or mixed eating oil / flour / milk / cheese / butter / peppers / lentils / rice

    f) I don't want dangerous chemical fertilizers in my produce (slow killers - massive kidney failure rate in India for past 10 years)

    g) I don't want to teach my children dishonesty and tricks of survival/street smartness (in ref to corruption in India) which don't add any value to their personality.

    h) The only reason I would wanna go back is for my immediate family and friends. Thats the only thing I miss when it comes to India.

    I wouldn't go back and I believe even MK Gandhi himself would'nt leave from Africa for India in todays times.

    Also Its the enemy within (corruption) which can cause great harm and we have that kind of enemy now. You can never ever change the attitudes which people carry in India without another revolution.

    I am sure I can come up with a huge list of positives too, They will sound very good and will give me a great feeling of fake National Pride.

    Now go ahead and kill me for saying all the above.!!
    Wow! This can get ugly very quick.

    But I agree with you. I am from paksitan and feel the same way. This decision is more for my kids future and not mine.

    And yes, along with all of the above, add in religious fundamentalism for my home..... :(





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  • chanduv23
    06-27 11:34 PM
    This thread is enough to keep the BP at higher levels to the already stressed out folks.

    A lot of people who do not follow immigration stuff have the following perception

    (1) All dates moved - we will all get green cards
    (2) People started applying PERM now - thinking they can make it by September
    (3) They think US wants to keep its valuble people and thats why they opened up the gates
    (4) Some think Indian govt putting pressure on US govt to issue GCs to Indians or else threaten to severe trade ties
    (5) Some thing There is a link between CIR and this. Before CIR is forced implemented they want to clear their existing backlogs so that they get ready to deal with Y and Z stuff
    (6) Some think this decision was taken to clear backlogs so that every new applicant will come under the new points system proposed in CIR

    So many theories, interpretations, perceptions ..... Everything seems to be a perception here



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  • chanduv23
    02-13 10:11 AM
    Chanduv,

    I know in the past many times it was debated -- why people do not support? Let me put forth what I feel.

    Effort put by IV is very commendable. But the beneficiary of IV work (mostly) do not give importance to Green Card. That is what I think based on talking to multiple people and that is what we see from the % participation of people for various fruitful effort put forth by IV. Most of them say they do not care if they get GC or not. In their heart of heart they may but not too much.

    Other reason I can think of is -- There could be doubt in minds of many people of IV strength. The day IV gets some success, people will rally behind IV for a while. And that is the scenario outside world too. See the stock price. If the company is doing good, stock price goes up. The day one bad news comes, stocks falls down. Take the presidential election. You can very well make out that contribution by company or people is proportional to candidate wins. If you are loosing, contribution will dry out very fast. I am not saying that candidate will not have supporter but that would be less in number. Take N.T. Rama Rao case. The day Naidu ditched him and others followed him, no officials gave importance to NTR.

    Believe me, in my office or outside, I have talked to every Indian. And not one comes back n discusses with me about IV.

    I strongly feel IV is doing a commendable job with some dedicated contributors.

    Well - Thats what I have noticed, but people go nowhere nor do they do anything for themselves. More than interest, I think people do not want to get into these things, no one wants to take unwanted risks - as thats how people percieve it. A lot of people feel IVs protocols are tough - I don't think askig people to send letters is tough.

    Talking about organization's successes - IV is not a software company attracting people to buy shares or seek advantage - for the nth time - this is not a software or IT project or a wall street financial. WSe must come out of that mind sets.

    AMAN KAPOOR, JAY PRADHAN, HIMANSHU and everyone who are on the forefront are JUST ORDINARY COMMON PEOPLE LIKE EVERYONE HERE. the idea behind IV is to provide a support network. If people want to see success - they HAVE to be a part of it. The efforts of such organizations is not to make profits and then sell shares and perform well and then make people join it, it is to provide with a platform where people can help themselves.

    We are having issues - green card delays - lets think of it as an ailment that needs to be cured. Now lets do something about it. Lets go to a doctor - a doctor does not guarantee that they will cure u but gives you advice, treats you and gives you medicine and asks you to follow certain protocols. That is exactly what IV is.

    Our primary issue is in our thought process. We want to do everything, we want everything in the world BUT we do not want to stand up and rise in unity. We want to blame IV leaders saying they are rude and pushy. We come up with discussion threads saying we must do this we must do that and finally we see these discussions just getting buried.

    Good examples of how communities thrive anywhere in the world are the Jewish community and the Patel community. The only reason they have succeeded is because they believe in themselves and their cause - they are all over the world and are united, they have managed to make their lives easier by uniting for their causes.

    Look at us - if green card is delayed - we say - I dont care about it, India is rising - but are we going there? No way - no one who says "India is rising" will go - in fat they will be the first to apply for any immigration benefit.

    Why are we individually so highly skilled and intelligent and capable but collectively so naive? Why do we always want others to do it for us? is it because if there is any opposition the active ones will be affected and we can escape? is it cowardice that stops us from being united?

    What is success? How can we achieve success? Why are we finding excuses for not doing our part? Why do we always want to praise others but not do something?





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  • Dyana
    02-14 12:29 PM
    Hi Bestia

    I see your PD is Aug 2004 for EB3 ROW, and U already filed I 485.
    I need some help: My PD is also Aug 2004, I'm in the EB3 ROW. When can I start filling I-485? The March VB says 01JAN2005. What is the last date I can file?
    Thanks 4 help.



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  • maximus777
    06-05 03:26 PM
    There is already a thread working on Government of India to consolidate Pension Fund with Social Security. America already has this type of treaties with few european countries. But looking at the bereaucracy now, this may take next 10-15 years.

    I'll take that timeframe as long as such an arrangement can be worked out. Most of us here have 15+ years to retirement. As long as we get back our hard earned money, and as long as the US govt/treasury feels the pain in disbursing billions of dollars into Indian economy. :cool:

    I know, I can only wish! :rolleyes:





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  • Picasa
    07-27 03:27 PM
    Lets see how much money you have donated. Please provide details and then we will compare.
    As far as action items are concerned... Here is the latest example:

    I have just send the email regarding EAD issues...Did you send the email?

    Also as requested by one of the member, give your mailing address so that CIS can be notified.:D

    I have been donating more money to IV over 4 years then you do, and will keep on doing. Do you?
    There are lot of action items to meeting lawmakers. Why don't get your focus on that?





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  • desi3933
    06-17 01:19 PM
    I agree with you on the above points. You are doing the right thing in not blaming others for the downtrend in salaries. However, you are fundamentally assuming that you would have enough time to upgrade and adapt. What if that assumption falls apart?


    Well, how can I blame employer if he is looking for skillset I don't have. To give you an example, if employer is looking for dot net architect with .net 3.5 experience and you have experience of dot net 2.0 then you don't qualify for that job. Simple.

    Now a days, things are changing at faster pace. If you can't cope with that, you will lagging behind. You can not ask everyone else to go slow to match your speed.


    What if outsourcing companies hit your employer with people with your skillets at abysmal prices through fraud?


    Like I said before in other posts, if you suspect fraudulent activity, you can report it to authorities. Also you have option of legal route, if you have been wronged.


    Today many companies do not look into the long term but make short term decisions. They may prefer the loss in quality for the "immediate" cost savings. It may take time for them to realize their follies.


    That is the decision employer has to make. It is upto employer whether he wants top-notch programmer or a mediocre one. Employer has top bear the cost of making bad decision in this case.

    Just like, no one can force you to take a particular job or a particular salary, we can not force employer to salary for that job. If Employer offers 50k salary for the job, you believe it should be 80k, then you should look for job elsewhere. If everyone is offering 50 to 55 (for example), then you will be forced to reconsider your salary. This is called market forces and it works both ways. Sometimes it works in favor of you, other times it could be against you.


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    yetanotherguyinline
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    msp1976
    02-13 06:07 PM
    Well
    I have friends that make 3 times as much as I do...The only difference is that they have a GC and I do not..and I am making much better than an average American....

    So your saying that I am not suffering is not soothing to me...It does not reduce my pain.....It does not convince me in any way....

    Not just that...My friends who chose not to come to America now have a higher net worth than me....So coming to America has not exactly been a great thing for me....More over whatever you are saying is just salt on my wounds...nothing less than that....



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